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Hi, i'm new registered here, i'd like to say thanks to all here, i have read a lot of interesting here and it helped me a lot. Many thanks, Mary
Hi guys, Simon here again. I have a few suggestions to make for PDSH, hope I'm not stepping on anybody's toes with these propositions.
Long story short, I'm interested in writing articles for "resource" sites such as Digital Comic Museum and Golden Age Comics. While we're all familiar with DCM and GAC, new users may not know of their existence, and I think it would be a good idea to provide information on the various download hubs available within the community.
We might also consider doing articles on historical projects such as Markstein's Toonopedia or The Grand Comics Database, both of which are excellent reference sources for anyone with an interest in golden age comics. In my humble view, PDSH is part of a much wider network, and we'd probably benefit by including articles on websites similar to this one.
My second proposal concerns the general structure of the wiki. At the moment, our content is divided up by categories - which works fine, I should hasten to add - but I was wondering if we could also group the main genres under Portals as well. For example, we might have a Superhero Portal, a Crime Portal, a Western Portal, a Horror Portal, and so on. If we include Portal Links on the Main Page, it might make navigation easier for any new users who are unfamiliar with the category system.
Please note that these are only suggestions, I'm not trying to force my views on anyone here. However, if you think these ideas might be worth pursuing, I'd be more than willing to work on Resource Articles and Portals in my free time (BTW Wikipedia provides a basic model we could develop for our own purposes).
Please let me know what you think; I'd be grateful for any feedback you may have on these matters, and I'm always open to advice and input. Ciao, SimonKirby 08:19, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm. I'd been thinking we could/should have articles on the comic publishers (Nedor, ACG, etc.), specifically as they relate to the material being PD. This sounds good to me.
- 12:39, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
- I agree with both.Hyju 22:24, October 10, 2011 (UTC)
- I already gave you my opinion on the resource articles on my talk page. The rest seem like good ideas to me. --Strannik01 15:01, October 13, 2011 (UTC)
No to the resources individual articles, but we could create a single page that lists resources and gives a brief description of each. The Portals sound like a good idea if you could create them that would be fantastic SimonKirby. I also like Roygbiv666's idea to create pages for the comics companies who work are in the public domain. I would also suggest we add a little more info on the creator pages for people unfamiliar with them. Crimsoncrusader 18:47, October 14, 2011 (UTC)
RE: Portal Page Experiment
OK, here's my first shot at structuring a Portal Page. I'll do some more fine tuning tomorrow, particularly on the Main Categories section (put them in rows, try to figure out a way to integrate thumbnails into the text). I designed it in monobook, so it probably won't look the same in the default setting.
I'm thinking it might be a good idea to create a new category specifically for Superheroes, ie differentiating between super-powered beings and "regular" non-powered heroes. We might also separate superheroes from villains, otherwise characters such as Nazi Shock Gibson might be listed under the proposed "Electrical Heroes" category.
BTW: What do you think of the idea of starting a youtube channel for public domain superhero serials (eg "Spy smasher")? Might be worth considering SimonKirby 11:43, October 15, 2011 (UTC)
Categories of images
I tried to copy the model of Wikimedia Commons and make the template by adding categories to images and could not leave.Hyju 00:54, October 16, 2011 (UTC)
Pulp Heroes Portal
Here's the basic design for the Pulp Heroes Portal. I was thinking we could use a different color scheme for each one, as the wiki has become much more diverse over the past year or so. I also experimented with blinking text here, and plan to add more "special effects" as we proceed. Let me know if you think we're ready to add these first two portals to the front page.
I noticed that we don't have many entries under the Pulp Characters category. I'd like to add a few more to the list, but I'm not sure of the copyright status. Project Gutenberg has a number of Robert E. Howard novellas and short stories listed as public domain. Do you think it can be trusted as a reliable source for PD material? Ciao, SimonKirby 06:07, October 17, 2011 (UTC)
Super Patriot Portal
Next, here's the Super Patriot portal, home base for the "stars and stripes" brigade. Includes a youtube video for chapter 1 of Republic's Captain America serial (1944). Would really love to see a restored and colorized version of this one, CA just isn't "Cap" in monochrome :( Ciao, SimonKirby 11:41, October 21, 2011 (UTC)
Do you mean in regards to characters whose secret identities are unknown? we already have:
Question About PD Status?
Hey, I was wondering, would any of the Gamera characters who's movies (Or at least some dubs thereof) technically count as public domain, because at least one of the works featuring them is? You know, like Gurion, the Gyaos, ect.?
And would the Gappa count since their film is public domain? And would Pulgasari count, since I've seen its movie listed as PD in several places?
I don't know anything about those characters, sorry. Generally speaking, though, as for whether or not a character is PD, it all depends whether or not their first appearance is. So, if this Pulgasari's first appearance was in its movie (and the movie actually is PD), then, yes, he/she/it/they would be PD. If the movie is PD but, not his/her/its/their first appearance, and their first appearance is still copyrighted, then still images of the film would be able to be used as would the storyline taking place within it (provided it's an original story and not a depiction of a copyrighted book or something) but, any characters still under copyright would need to be left out or have their names changed. Such is the case with the Rankin/Bass Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer film. It is PD but, is not Rudolph's first appearance. The colouring book he first appeared in is still under copyright so he can't be used in new works without permisson however, the original characters created specifically for that film can be. There was a landmark case recently involving Sherlock Holmes that reinforced this (you can read about it here). It's also worth noting that a character, in and of itself, doesn't really have a copyright. It's the work the character appeared in that does but, I don't think I can explain that fully. A guy on here did explain it really well once, and I thought it was on Crimsoncrusader's talk page but, I didn't notice it just now when I made a quick look. Hope all that helps.Cebr1979 (talk) 18:25, February 7, 2015 (UTC)
Can we make the Fairy-Tale/Literature/Mythology characters less Wiki-Clogging?
By that I mean, it's hard to search for primarily film-based characters in the Film Characters section with all the supoer suepr obvious PD characters who have appeared in films but aren't primarily film-bases. Yes we know folks like Santa and the Oz-characters have appeared in films before, but that's not why I'm looking in that section, and i doubt others will too. It just makes the whole thing really hard to search.
So, maybe we could remove them from there and just keep them to their primary spheres, I.E. fairytales and literature such, or create a separate category for them, tho we could keep the pulp-lit characters in there as they're more relevant to what I see as the main focus of this wiki, I.E. pulp-y characters dropped into the PD via negligence or screw-ups?
- It's one of those things... Once we start getting rid of one group of characters, someone else will want another group gone and then where does it end? When we're right back to where we started? No, we won't be moving any groups somewhere else.Cebr1979 (talk) 12:34, September 26, 2016 (UTC)
Ideas to Make Better Use of the "Characters by time period" Section
So I noticed that there's a catagory called "Characters by time period". That seems like the sort of thing that would be really useful for research purposes—'cause, I mean, knowing when a character was written is great, but if you want to use them in a story, it'd be kinda useful to know what time they acutually lived in—but the only catagories are American Revolution Characters, Arthurian Characters, Crusade Era Characters, Mythological Characters, and Prehistoric Characters. I feel like you're not using that section to its full potential there. I mean, there's plenty of characters from the Victorian era, from the Nepoleonic era, World War I, World War II, the Cold War, the '20s and '30s, the Golden Age of Sail, the Old West, the Distant Future. Those are time periods, aren't they? Maybe throw in a Post Apocalyptic period, since Anthony "Buck" Rogers and Well's Time Traveler definately traveled to settings that would qualify as that, and I think there were some others as well.
I can do it myself if I've got permission and you don't want to do it. I got time.
(Also, I second the previous suggestion regarding the fairy tale characters. That dude didn't sign his post, so I didn't want to add anything to that topic 'cause then it'd look like he wrote it and that would just be confusing) ~ BrokenEye3 (talk) 09:53, July 11, 2016 (UTC)
If you want to create sub-categories for all those time-periods... fine by me! We already have a "Western Heroes" category, though, so an "Old West" time period one would most likely just be a duplicate of that.Cebr1979 (talk) 13:04, July 11, 2016 (UTC)
Ne'er ye mind. I've figured it out, and got a lot of work done catagorizing characters. There are quite a few that I can't determine the era of, though, and I don't want to make any assumptions. ~ BrokenEye3 (talk) 21:17, July 12, 2016 (UTC)